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csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/2024-09/240924_Cohen_Russia_Ukraine.pdf

"Surprise occurs in many forms. Many think of it in terms of a surprise attack, but it occurs in other dimensions. The full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022 is a good example: the attack was foreseen, but the immediate outcomes were astonishing. To use an old Soviet phrase, analysts misunderstood in fundamental ways the “correlation of forces.” Their judgments about Russian and Ukrainian military capacity were not merely off — they were wildly at variance with reality. And even more perplexing, leading and widely acknowledged experts misjudged with a degree of certainty that in retrospect is no less remarkable than the analytic failure itself."

"Their misjudgment was not a case of normal error or exaggeration. The expert community grossly overestimated Russian military capabilities, dismissed the chances of Ukraine resisting effectively, and presented the likely outcome of the war as quick and decisive. This analytic failure also had policy implications. Pessimism about Ukraine’s chances restricted military support before February 24, 2022. For years, voices in the analytic community argued publicly against providing crucial military aid for Ukraine precisely because Russia was presumably so strong that a war between the two countries, particularly a conventional one, would be over too quickly for the aid to make a significant difference. Once the war began, some of Ukraine’s most important international friends hesitated to supply advanced weapons, in part out of the mistaken belief that Ukraine would prove unable to use them or would be overrun before it could deploy them effectively. Today, such hesitation remains, with Ukraine still lacking the weapons systems it needs to defeat Russia in its relentless effort to destroy Ukraine as a state."

Date: 2024-10-06 03:39 (UTC)
1master: (Default)
From: [personal profile] 1master
"The expert community grossly overestimated Russian military capabilities, dismissed the chances of Ukraine resisting effectively, and presented the likely outcome of the war as quick and decisive."

А сейчас наоборот, что характерно.

Date: 2024-10-06 06:41 (UTC)
kondybas: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kondybas
обосрались, осторожничают

Date: 2024-10-06 18:08 (UTC)
1master: (Default)
From: [personal profile] 1master
... и опять обосрались.

Я намекал на рассказы, как всех сейчас уморят санкции и как раша ничего не сможет.

Date: 2024-10-06 18:27 (UTC)
kondybas: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kondybas
Легко же аналитически доказать полную несостоятельность всех и всяческих публичніх "аналитиков" :)

Если предположить, что некий аналитик не вісасівает свои прогнозі из пальца (занедорого), а реально обладает рабочим методом прогноза, то ему нет никакого смісла ни лизоблюдничать при власть предержащих, ни торговать, извините, литсом в телевизоре/ютубе. Имея в руках рабочий метод, можно довольно бістро сколотить грандиозній капитал, и ни от кого не зависеть.

Иніми словами, аналитики бівают двух видов: непублично прогнозирующие ТОЛЬКО в собственніх интересах, и фуфлогоні, умело надувающие щеки за малій прайс.

Date: 2024-10-06 04:51 (UTC)
juan_gandhi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] juan_gandhi
Good observations.

Date: 2024-10-06 06:09 (UTC)
suhajh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] suhajh
"ведущие и широко признанные эксперты" такие җе , как и те шо при развале ссср.
Что то не так там у них в консерватории. 🤔