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[personal profile] vak
В 1966-м году Джозеф Вейценбаум соорудил программу Элиза, которая умела вести диалог с человеком. Я взял аутентичную реализацию Элизы на Си++ (aheliza.cpp) и дал ей пообщаться с chatgpt.com. Вот что получилось.
$ c++ -std=c++17 aheliza.cpp -o aheliza
$ ./aheliza 1966_01_CACM_article_Eliza_script.txt
HOW DO YOU DO. PLEASE TELL ME YOUR PROBLEM
I'm here and ready to help with whatever you need! What's on your mind?
IS IT BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE AND READY TO HELP WITH WHATEVER I NEED! WHAT'S ON MY MIND? THAT YOU CAME TO ME
Interesting twist on our interaction! It seems like you're playing with language. Are you exploring something specific, like philosophy, humor, or a creative idea?
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I AM PLAYING WITH LANGUAGE
Your phrasing has a playful rhythm and an almost Socratic quality, as though you're leading the conversation in a way that invites curiosity. It's the kind of wordplay that nudges me to think about meaning and intent. Am I on the right track, or is there something else at play here?
WHY ARE YOU CONCERNED OVER MY PHRASING HAS A PLAYFUL RHYTHM AND AN ALMOST SOCRATIC QUALITY
Because the way we communicate shapes the meaning of our exchange. Your phrasing feels deliberate, inviting a deeper reflection on how and why we speak the way we do. It’s intriguing! Are you testing the boundaries of conversation, or is there a specific insight you're aiming for?
IS THAT THE REAL REASON
The real reason is simple curiosity. Your questions challenge the usual flow of dialogue, and that fascinates me. It’s not every day I encounter such thought-provoking engagement. What about you—why do you ask in this way?
WHAT ABOUT YOUR OWN QUESTIONS CHALLENGE THE USUAL FLOW OF DIALOGUE
Good point! My questions might challenge the flow because they’re reflective and recursive, mirroring your own approach. They aim to uncover layers of meaning rather than just provide direct answers. It’s like a conversational dance—responding to your rhythm while introducing my own.
YOUR QUESTIONS MIGHT CHALLENGE THE FLOW BECAUSE THEY’RE REFLECTIVE AND RECURSIVE
Does this dynamic resonate with you?
I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU FULLY
Let me rephrase! My questions might seem unusual because they don’t just aim to answer you directly; instead, they look deeper, trying to understand the reasoning or emotion behind your words. When I say they’re “reflective,” I mean they mirror your ideas back to you, like holding up a conversational mirror. And by “recursive,” I mean they often loop back to ask about the meaning of what’s been said, creating a cycle of exploration. Does that make things clearer?
WHY DO YOU SAY YOUR QUESTIONS MIGHT SEEM UNUSUAL BECAUSE THEY DON’T JUST AIM TO ANSWER I DIRECTLY; INSTEAD
I say that because your style of questioning nudges me to think beyond a simple response. You seem to invite deeper exploration, so I adapt by offering thoughts that expand on the surface meaning. It’s like you’re inviting a collaborative unraveling of ideas. Am I understanding your intent, or would you frame it differently?
YOU SAY YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE MY STYLE OF QUESTIONING NUDGES YOU TO THINK BEYOND A SIMPLE RESPONSE
Yes, I do say that! Your questions are open-ended and layered, which makes me pause and consider how best to engage. They don't just seek straightforward answers; instead, they seem to probe the why and how of the interaction itself. Is that the effect you’re going for, or do you see it differently?
YOU SEEM QUITE POSITIVE
I do try to keep things positive! It's my way of fostering a thoughtful, open, and engaging atmosphere. It helps conversations flow and encourages curiosity. Does that positivity resonate with you, or does it feel unexpected in this exchange?
DOES THAT SUGGEST ANYTHING ELSE WHICH BELONGS TO YOU

(...и так далее...)

Date: 2024-12-05 07:28 (UTC)
mopexod: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mopexod
Кажется, умение послать собеседника нахер - необходимая составляющая интеллекта.

Date: 2024-12-05 12:07 (UTC)
mopexod: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mopexod
С одной стороны - конечно! С другой - ChatGPT ведь не знает, что говорит с пожилой дамой!..

Date: 2024-12-05 20:57 (UTC)
mopexod: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mopexod
Да! Очень такого не хватает у ИИ...

Date: 2024-12-06 12:18 (UTC)
silpol: Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks (Default)
From: [personal profile] silpol
с третьей стороны, Элиза неприхотлива к ресурсам компьютера, в то время как все эти ЛЛМы...

Date: 2024-12-05 08:03 (UTC)
suhajh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] suhajh
...conversational dance...
😁👍

Date: 2024-12-05 08:08 (UTC)
x86128: (Default)
From: [personal profile] x86128
хорошо

Date: 2024-12-05 10:15 (UTC)
tiresome_cat: (CuriousCat)
From: [personal profile] tiresome_cat
Чат вьіглядит намного умней и значительно вежливее :)
Edited Date: 2024-12-05 10:15 (UTC)

Date: 2024-12-05 22:33 (UTC)
tiresome_cat: (SmilingCat_2)
From: [personal profile] tiresome_cat
Элизочка-людоедка: "Подумаешь!" :)

Date: 2024-12-06 08:49 (UTC)
tiresome_cat: (SmilingCat_2)
From: [personal profile] tiresome_cat
Блеск.
Edited Date: 2024-12-06 08:56 (UTC)

Date: 2024-12-06 12:21 (UTC)
silpol: Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks (Default)
From: [personal profile] silpol
там вроде есть опция - стилизировать разговор под , но я не уверен, что оно смапит русский текст Эллочки поверх основного корпуса текстов

Date: 2024-12-06 22:03 (UTC)
tiresome_cat: (CuriousCat)
From: [personal profile] tiresome_cat
Тут есть одна сложность: хоть Эллочка и обходилась тридцатью фразами, но большинство из них имело множество смысловых оттенков, в зависимости от контекста применения и эмоциональной тональности произношения. Вот как быть с последней? Текстом она не передаётся. И даже смайлик не всегда потянет за эквивалент.

Date: 2024-12-06 23:26 (UTC)
tiresome_cat: (CuriousCat)
From: [personal profile] tiresome_cat
Да, но по сути - это же эмоции. Способна ли языковая модель их генерировать или, хотя бы, имитировать адекватно контексту?

Date: 2024-12-07 07:13 (UTC)
tiresome_cat: (Oops)
From: [personal profile] tiresome_cat
Страшно.

Date: 2024-12-05 11:25 (UTC)
juan_gandhi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] juan_gandhi
Боже мой. Два попугая.

Date: 2024-12-05 12:09 (UTC)
mopexod: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mopexod
Во-о-от! Кому же мы вопросы задаём, и в ответы вчитываемся!...

Date: 2024-12-05 12:47 (UTC)
juan_gandhi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] juan_gandhi
Я вчера искал одного кинорежиссёра. Ну мне тоже, сначала известных подбрасывало, а потом стало бредить.

Date: 2024-12-06 12:52 (UTC)
silpol: Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks (Default)
From: [personal profile] silpol
и один из них - стохастический (giggle)

Date: 2024-12-06 08:30 (UTC)
dom3d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dom3d
Мне не нравится направление течения ваших мыслей

Date: 2024-12-06 09:32 (UTC)
dom3d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dom3d
Вот не надо ляля.
А кто их стравил?

Date: 2024-12-06 12:22 (UTC)
silpol: Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks (Default)
From: [personal profile] silpol
прям как в Ва-банк 'А кто ее стукнул? Кто стукнул?!'

Date: 2024-12-06 09:37 (UTC)
dom3d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dom3d
Дай ей поговорить с другим ИИ
https://www.perplexity.ai/

Date: 2024-12-06 14:49 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ymz5
І на оцей "інтелект" світ щороку витрачає сотні мільярдів......

Відразу пригадався комент про "паровий коток", сказаний, здається, Чомскі у бесіді з Норвіґом.

Date: 2025-01-11 15:15 (UTC)
dom3d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dom3d
В мемориз